For Bush Hater's Everywhere

Yes because the coal industry never existed before GWB. He birthed it, fully formed, in 2001, right?

Your underwear rides up.  Who you gonna blame when Bush is gone?

Too Funny janice!

, Laughed out loud :)  :} :O ha,ha,ha

When you have no Bush, does your underwear ride up more? Just askin'.

No underwear, problem solved.

Aye I agree I definately need my wife.

Bush is the national scapegoat because he must be the only one with the guts to take blame. You think Nanci Pelosi would take what Bush goes through? NO.

I in no way condone Bush's spending practices, however, I am sure Obama will prove Bush had some compentency.

Here are some of my thoughts piggy backing on yours. I love your list BTW.

1) Bush a responsible for global warming. Hmmm. Didn't Obama ride around in a private jet? How many Dems have SUV's? I guess that doesn't count because they get a pass on life. :-)

2) Bush is responsible for Mad Cow Disease. I heard this one too. I laughed my @$$ off. Yes, and he's responsible for childhood obesity too. Not you or your kid who consume 100 grams of saturated fat per day...Trust me, soon there will be a thread about Bush being responsible for Childhood Obesity.

3) Bush is responsible for Hurricane Katrina. I find it ironic Bush gets so much blame and the idiot that runs new orleans got re-elected after sending his people to Houston and leaving them there. Wow.

4) Bush is responsible for the decrease in the Monarch Butterfly population. Actually the hippies are. Monarch Butterflies don't like them.

5)  (I actually saw this one on the Vine)...Bush is responsible for road rage. Yes, because all people from Texas are crazy drunks with shot guns in our backseats. Yee haw... Apparently they haven't driven in NYC or LA.

I can't wait to just see the Obama-bots dig themselves a grave defending blindly the idiotic policies of their leader. This guy is the ultimate rookie. I hope they are prepared to eat their words.

 can't wait to just see the Obama-bots dig themselves a grave defending blindly the idiotic policies of their leader. This guy is the ultimate rookie. I hope they are prepared to eat their words.

Won't happen.  Liberals don't eat their words or admit they may have been wrong about something.  They simply justify their stance, regardless of how far they have to reach or how idiotic that justification might be.  =)

So next year, it will be -

"Obama moves to segregate schools to focus learning"

And his supporters will say,

"He's so intelligent and enlightened"

Socrates -

I hope I am not kidding but who knows. We seem to be more and more at the mercy of a selfish government. :-(

Hot and Smart, you may be on to something.

Socrates, what amuses me is many who cannot restrain themselves about Dubya simply become apoplectic if someone takes liberties with Obama's moniker.

It's the secular version of blasphemy.

PatN

1) Bush a responsible for global warming. <--- no, but he's certainly responsible for some raise in people's blood pressure, temper, and overall hot headedness (is that a word?)

2) Bush is responsible for Mad Cow Disease. <--- ya, if it weren't for him we'd probably have Denny Crane for a couple more seasons

3) Bush is responsible for Hurricane Katrina.  <--- no, only for the miserable government relief response to same

4) Bush is responsible for the decrease in the Monarch Butterfly population. <--- I have nothing intelligent to add

5)  (I actually saw this one on the Vine)...Bush is responsible for road rage.  <--- certainly responsible for some of mine

to be honest, some quick thoughts came to mind as I read the comment... thought I'd share

I can't wait to just see the Obama-bots dig themselves a grave defending blindly the idiotic policies of their leader. This guy is the ultimate rookie. I hope they are prepared to eat their words.

Agreed.

Also, I am bothered most about the blatant falsehoods that ran all throughout Obama's campaign rhetoric.  He made outlandish promises, simply to woo the liberals and far left.  Even though, it was painfully obvious that most of his proposals  would not and could not be kept.   As Bill Clinton often stated.  Obama was weaving a a fairytale.

Now, many of the policies Obama is suddenly claiming to embrace are the same as Bush or McCain's proposals or path.

The really odd thing is that some of Obama's fans continue to defend him even as he tells them that he can't deliver on is campaing rhetoric.

The really odd thing is that some of Obama's fans continue to defend him even as he tells them that he can't deliver on is campaing rhetoric.

Shaun,

Excellent point.  I don't support the man in any way, shape or form...but I DO feel a little sorry for him. 

 He's smart enough to know that there was no way he could deliver on his campaign promises.  Even in an ideal economy, you can't give tax breaks to "95% or Americans" AND increase spending on social programs.

He's got to know the bottom is going to drop out of his celebrity status fairly soon.  He put himself in a h*ll of a predicament.  He knows he has to govern from the center in order to improve the economy.  Yet he also knows that it might be nearly impossible to do so...given the Pelosi, Reid factor.  Add to that, the far left portion of his constituency that's looking for hand-outs for everyone...and he's in a pretty tight spot.

I wonder how long it will be before a portion of his base is throwing Oreo's at him and calling him an 'Uncle Tom'?

He's got to know the bottom is going to drop out of his celebrity status fairly soon.  He put himself in a h*ll of a predicament.

Good point.  I do think he realized this would happen.  Still, IMO, his goal was to get into office, and he likely hoped (there's that word again) that he could suave his way out of any dissent with eloquent oration.

I wonder how long it will be before a portion of his base is throwing Oreo's

I am curious about that, too, regarding both his fan base and the press.

Newsvine is nothing but a bunch of name-calling fanaticals all screaming "I am not responsible" Weak whimpery.

Speak for yourself.

Move it up a notch, speak outloud with a face and then make a difference. Write your congressman and sign your name.

Why do you assume none of us have done this?

Because there is soooooooooooo much whining. If people had spoken out as responsible individuals there would much more confidence, I know I have and still do, do it. Do you not see the pettiness of the arguments here. Granted there are a few formidable voices, but they are few. Where do you stand, upfront or behind a crowd. Its past time for healthy inciting.

Petty arguments bother me not a whit. That's what the scroll wheel is for. You take this way too seriously. Take from it what pleases you and disregard the rest. Use it to sharpen your arguments and your thinking. Take the opportunity of challenges that will come to confirm or discard what you think you know.

Waynester

I get you~

for name-calling fanaticals everywhere, I thank you for your support

Funny how it changes and swells just like a womens cycle.

"...swells like a womans cycle"? Okaaaay.  I'm sure this analogy means something.  I can't for the life of me, figure out what, though.

I thought it was a pretty good post too.

Obama hasnt even started yet and he has more pressure as PE than any president taking office I can remember.

That is simply because Obama is already attempting to set policy.  No other president elect has done so in such an obvious way, prior.

Hence by attempting to set policy prior to taking office, Obama has opened himself to legitimate, critiques.   It's a situation of his own making.

I think he is doing so out of nessicity it is a darned if you do darned if you dont scenario.  I saw you pounce on Obama in another thread when he said that he refered commenting on Mubai to Bush. If he were sitting at home quiet right now the media would bash him for not doing anything. 

Besides he starts work next month shouldnt he be establishing what his policies will be. Already Bush is defering issues to him. He is not doing anything but getting his administration together and saying what he is going to do next month. Saying what his policies will be is not the same as setting the policy now.

Besides he starts work next month shouldnt he be establishing what his policies will be

I am not making a judgement about whether he should or should not do so.

I am simply stating that because he has chosen to do so, he has opened himself to critique.   It's simply a logical expectation, and it would be unrealistic to expect that no free thinking person or group would critique him.

I agree he should be critiqued. I am even more critical of Obama because I voted for him. I was making the comment that no other PE has had this much public pressure to be pro-active before his administration even begins. I was also pointing out for him, as well for anybody in the public eye, there is no one action that you can take that will be universally praised. Someone is always going to have something to say. They should say it, but their criticisms should hold up to the same scrutiny as they place on those they crticize.

That is fair enough, 4real.  :)

Such is the life and predicament of being the head honcho of a world superpower.

I cyberly shake your hand goodfellow.

Obama has raised expectations cant argue there.

My comment was that there is a lot more public pressure and scrutiny partially because we are in a  much different place media wise. Maybe other Presidents would have faced this much public criticism in their day had there been networks with 24 hour punditry and an infinite amount of web enthuisist criticing their every footstep. Also the country was more nationalistic and we didnt question are leadership like we do today. Some prior administrations in some periods in history would have fared much differently had they had to endure their particular crisis in todays climate

When the reality is that if the free market had been actually free the bad loans would never have been made in the first place.

Thats right, because in a free market, shady banks who sell bad loans can't dump then on someone else, and they fold.  Banking 101.  And I'm not even a banker.

Can I get an AMEN

No.  That would be offensive to the 'non-religious'.

Ah...what the heck...AMEN!!!!!!!!!

For you non-religious: Amen translated is "certainly, verily or so be it", so you are safe. :)

You over simplified my answer, this article is about Bush yes?

So we agree that Congess has not been doing its job?

What part of its job has it not been doing? It's boring reads, but I actually read the bills that come out of congress.  Congress has been putting oversight and accountability into its bills, but if the executive branch does not act lawfully then there is no recourse for congress.  Especially with the culture of ignoring congressional Subpoenas.  And you overlook my discussion of signing statements.  By writing this article, I was assuming that you wanted reasons for the "hate" towards bush.

 Make your point, preferably using logic, and skip the name calling.

I did that with a limited number of examples, and your only response is to attempt to blame congress for Bush's deeds.

Congress can only set guidelines, its up to the President to follow those guidelines and to take the actions at set forth by the Congress.  He is not a king.

So we don't overload the server, lets start with the shorter list.  What policies set by congress has he, and his adminstration followed?

I'll point back to the rubber stamp GOP congress and the spineless DNC congress of the last 2 years, I do not leave them blameless.  But I'll also point to the rise of execuative privilage claims.

aye

Not just the executive branch, the federal government in general. The founders thought that 90% of the governing should be at the state and local level, at least in peacetime (and in those days war meant hostilities on American soil)

!0th amendment, RIP.

Waynester,

You and I don't agree often, and this is definately an exception.  The consolidation of Power has done nothing but wreck havoc on our nation.

LOL

You are a flippen nut! :)

 No your a cracked nut! (:O

I'm still insisting on Refaol Tnediserp

To blearc did you check my page on the html it should say Refaol Tnediserp. Changed that part yesterday unless of course I'm the only one who can see it.

Lol